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Can we consider Pablo Escobar as a model of success?

Post by juancamilobustosg on Fri 14 Oct - 17:59

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Post by santiago.10945 on Wed 19 Oct - 9:31

Pablo escobar is one of the biggest cancer this country and the world has ever had, yes, hi might have given some money homes, study to people and Medellín , but the amount of people that died because of his action affect his the history and reputation of this country
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Post by juanfeCISF on Wed 19 Oct - 10:15

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Hello Juan Camilo, I think that Pablo Escobar reached everything he wanted but the problems comes when we start to see how does Pablo reached his richness and power. And killing people, destroying life's, family's, and a complete country is not something that may be consider as succes. So in my personal opinion Plablo Escobar is not a model of succes for anybody in the world. Take care my dear friend.
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Post by juancamilobustosg on Wed 19 Oct - 10:17

santiago.10945 wrote:Pablo escobar is one of the biggest cancer this country and the world has ever had, yes, hi might have given some money homes, study to people and Medellín , but the amount of people that died because of his action affect his the history and reputation of this country
I consider that a proper observation but I would like you to answer the question itself: Can he then considered a model of success taking into account his good will actions and his goals in economic terms ? Rolling Eyes
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Post by Marianamonroy00 on Wed 19 Oct - 10:21

I don't consider Pablo escobar a model of succes as indeed he did succeeded in his goals but what doesn't make count is the way he got there. I feel people get successful by means of hard work and clean manners.
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Post by JuanFelipeDavila on Wed 19 Oct - 10:23

I that even though Pablo Escobar was one of the most powerful person in Colombia during his time and also one of the wealthiest Colombian citizen, his money was full of blood and his power full of corruption and actions being held under the table.
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Post by juancamilobustosg on Wed 19 Oct - 10:25

juanfeCISF wrote:
juancamilobustosg wrote:Coment below
Hello Juan Camilo, I think that Pablo Escobar reached everything he wanted but the problems comes when we start to see how does Pablo reached his richness and power. And killing people, destroying life's, family's, and a complete country is not something that may be consider as succes. So in my personal opinion Plablo Escobar is not a model of succes for anybody in the world. Take care my dear friend.
Juanf, Imreally understand your point but other than social issues he caused, I'm referring to economical and political success. I will leave you a video below for you to understand his political role on Colombia's history Arrow
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Post by santiago.10945 on Thu 20 Oct - 9:47

JuanFelipeDavila wrote:I that even though Pablo Escobar was one of the most powerful person in Colombia during his time and also one of the wealthiest Colombian citizen, his money was full of blood and his power full of corruption and actions being held under the table.
Money doesn't matter, he shouldn't even be taken into account just because he gained some money, Pablo escobar is the cancer of this country, it has given us a reputation of drug dealers and cocaine heads, so no, he costs an arm and a leg to the advancement and reputation of this country internationally.
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Post by camilacastroi on Thu 20 Oct - 10:33

santiago.10945 wrote:Pablo escobar is one of the biggest cancer this country and the world has ever had, yes, hi might have given some money homes, study to people and Medellín , but the amount of people that died because of his action affect his the history and reputation of this country

Pablo Escobar has always been a hot potato since he began with his jobs. After many years, many news, many judgements, and some other aspects involved with him, I think the worst form of poting him is with the word "cancer". Pablo Escobar was a human who had personal ideologies. He went through many battles, between politicians, colleagues, family and someothers; he had reasons that explained his actions which maybe you didn't know it. I'm not saying that the people who died really deserved it, what I mean is that this people knew how Pablo Escobar was, they never had a valid reason to mess with him and as a result they get this sad end.
The history and reputation of this and all the countries of the world will be always affected by different actions. If you take into account, the government of this country has always been one of the worst in the world. The reputation and history of this country has been more affected from years before by the actions of the government than the actions of Mr. Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria.
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Post by Saarangom on Thu 20 Oct - 16:05

JuanFelipeDavila wrote:I that even though Pablo Escobar was one of the most powerful person in Colombia during his time and also one of the wealthiest Colombian citizen, his money was full of blood and his power full of corruption and actions being held under the table.

If he could have chosen any other way, would he had been corrupt? I think he isn't a model man. His words are sometimes those of a remorsed man. He wasn't perfect a therefore not a model, not even for himself.
What I mean is that he seemed not to be proud of what he had been doing.
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Re: Can we consider Pablo Escobar as a model of success?

Post by EmilyArias99 on Thu 20 Oct - 21:10

I don´t, I consider that a successful person is when someone don´t think only about it´s own bennefit.
He killed and really didn´t respect people and human rights.
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Re: Can we consider Pablo Escobar as a model of success?

Post by Juanestebanjunco on Sun 23 Oct - 15:58

No, I consider that he was a bad person, he abused of his power and damage and killed a lot off people, I think that some people can loss their principles and to affect others by ambition and power

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Post by DanielaACookies9A on Sun 23 Oct - 21:12

I don`t consider him a model to follow, because you can have the reasons you have, but you can`t go and kill and kill persons they deserve it or not, you can`t go and bomb cities killing innocent people, you can`t go and buy a city giving the houses and money for a "good cause", while you are drawing in blood the rest of the country. If you want something reach it, but don`t smash in whoever steps in front of you.

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Re: Can we consider Pablo Escobar as a model of success?

Post by Maria Jose Gomez on Sun 23 Oct - 22:53

Pablo Escobar was the wealthiest man on Earth at his time. But he is perfect example that shows that money and power doesn't make everything in life. He lived as a rock star and finished as a delinquent and besides, dead. There is so much about him, and so much mystery that reconstructs him as a leader. Above everything he might had had, he was a serial killer and an outlaw. Being inside the drugs business was one of his greatest mistakes. So many miscalculated actions during his life did transform him into an unwelcome person, and for me he is no such role person.
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Post by Juan Sebastián Peña 17 on Sun 23 Oct - 23:37

Pablo Escobar is an evil, inhuman and crazy man, but we cannot hide his incredible effort for accomplishing what he wanted. Nevertheless, there are more people which also fought for what they wanted and did positive things.
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Post by lilipaez on Mon 24 Oct - 1:14

Maria Jose Gomez wrote:Pablo Escobar was the wealthiest man on Earth at his time. But he is perfect example that shows that money and power doesn't make everything in life. He lived as a rock star and finished as a delinquent and besides, dead. There is so much about him, and so much mystery that reconstructs him as a leader. Above everything he might had had, he was a serial killer and an outlaw. Being inside the drugs business was one of his greatest mistakes. So many miscalculated actions during his life did transform him into an unwelcome person, and for me he is no such role person.
I agree, because if you take a person as an example is not only because the money that that person have, but how he or she get there and Pablo Escobar, maked many wrong decisions and killed many innocent people.
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