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Post by Daniel Melo Tue 27 Sep - 13:15

How is possible that the peace plebiscite do not accomplished what president had said? FARC guerilla said that they will not leave guns, so what we are expecting? Also in the treatment it is said that they will not pay their acts with jail, also narcotrafic is not mentioned at all in the plebiscite, so illegal acts will continue. And victims?, it is incredible that members of FARC are going to have more beneficts that the victims of violence, they will not have any repair from the government and any help at all. So government lied to us. Vote for NO

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Post by oscar.rojas Tue 27 Sep - 13:24

I'm agree with voting NO to the plebiscite. Yes we need to progress, Colombia need ps peace, but not in this way. Santos wants to give the country to this murderers which only have affect Colombia in the last 50 years. We need to back to the drawing board the process. I meant, if we want peace, we need the government make again the process without covering any point of it and making it public so the Colombians know what they're voting for. That's why if we vote NO, we have the chance to make the country consider again a new deal without giving the country to las FARC.

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Post by Juan Molano77 Tue 27 Sep - 20:57

Daniel Melo wrote:How is possible that the peace plebiscite do not accomplished what president had said? FARC guerilla said that they will not leave guns, so what we are expecting? Also in the treatment it is said that they will not pay their acts with jail, also narcotrafic is not mentioned at all in the plebiscite, so illegal acts will continue. And victims?, it is incredible that members of FARC are going to have more beneficts that the victims of violence, they will not have any repair from the government and any help at all. So government lied to us. Vote for NO
We should vote No for plebiscite in Colombia due to the inconsistencies about the treatment. How is posible that members of FARC are going to govern Colombia? Daniel you are in the right thing, also this topic is a hot potato, we need to take concious about the benefict of Colombia. We cannot give our territory to criminals, if we want real peace, we need to fight for it but we can't vote for a plebiscite where any agreement that government say to us is real.

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Post by 9AJulianFelipe Tue 27 Sep - 21:39

Voting NO shows how your way of thinking is limited by the fact of having to agree with every single part of this process, it might be kind of difficult to have an agreement which is approved by 45 million people, but the ball is in your court, my advice is that you try to forgive and forget, if not you shall cut corners and vote YES.

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Post by 9AJulianFelipe Tue 27 Sep - 21:52

Daniel Melo wrote:How is possible that the peace plebiscite do not accomplished what president had said? FARC guerilla said that they will not leave guns, so what we are expecting? Also in the treatment it is said that they will not pay their acts with jail, also narcotrafic is not mentioned at all in the plebiscite, so illegal acts will continue. And victims?, it is incredible that members of FARC are going to have more beneficts that the victims of violence, they will not have any repair from the government and any help at all. So government lied to us. Vote for NO
Having an agreement that is approved by a whole country is not that easy, your argument shows how does a person that doesn't know how to forgive or forget acts, but anyways, I would like you to think that during all the conflict, (52 years approximately) this negotiations are the nearest point that this process has had to peace and letting this opportunity pass would get us get back in all the progress we have reach. Voting NO will extend the number of victims caused by this conflict, but rember that the victims are not only caused by murder but from the backwardness that our country will get in front of the international comunity, so, voting NO is barking up the wrong tree.

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Post by Daniel Melo Tue 27 Sep - 22:06

9AJulianFelipe wrote:
Daniel Melo wrote:How is possible that the peace plebiscite do not accomplished what president had said? FARC guerilla said that they will not leave guns, so what we are expecting? Also in the treatment it is said that they will not pay their acts with jail, also narcotrafic is not mentioned at all in the plebiscite, so illegal acts will continue. And victims?, it is incredible that members of FARC are going to have more beneficts that the victims of violence, they will not have any repair from the government and any help at all. So government lied to us. Vote for NO
Having an agreement that is approved by a whole country is not that easy, your argument shows how does a person that doesn't know how to forgive or forget acts, but anyways, I would like you to think that during all the conflict, (52 years approximately) this negotiations are the nearest point that this process has had to peace and letting this opportunity pass would get us get back in all the progress we have reach. Voting NO will extend the number of victims caused by this conflict, but rember that the victims are not only caused by murder but from the backwardness that our country will get in front of the international comunity, so, voting NO is barking up the wrong tree.
According of what you are saying, it is evidenced that your knowledge about this topic is very poor. Imagine you are a victim of violence, would you agree that aggressors will have more beneficts than you? What if you lose your mom or dad because violence? What if you are displace from your home without anything to survive? But since that is not your case, it not matter to you. Voting NO will prevent giving Colombia to criminals which are going to manage it like they want. So is your decision

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Post by SEDelgado Tue 27 Sep - 22:26

Daniel Melo wrote:How is possible that the peace plebiscite do not accomplished what president had said? FARC guerilla said that they will not leave guns, so what we are expecting? Also in the treatment it is said that they will not pay their acts with jail, also narcotrafic is not mentioned at all in the plebiscite, so illegal acts will continue. And victims?, it is incredible that members of FARC are going to have more beneficts that the victims of violence, they will not have any repair from the government and any help at all. So government lied to us. Vote for NO

It is amazing the ire and rage of you Daniel when you talk about the peace process. First of all you have said the guerila won't leave the guns this is Totally fake, as FARC have the 6 months to give the guns to UN. Then, you talk about narcotrafic and that this topic hasn't been treated in the talks nor in the treaty. Another lie as all the lands in which drugs are planted will be destroyed by the farmers and they won't be guilty for having them. And when you talk about victims you should take into account the agrarian reform who will give lots of benefits to victims.
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Post by 9AJulianFelipe Thu 29 Sep - 19:17

Daniel Melo wrote:
9AJulianFelipe wrote:
Daniel Melo wrote:How is possible that the peace plebiscite do not accomplished what president had said? FARC guerilla said that they will not leave guns, so what we are expecting? Also in the treatment it is said that they will not pay their acts with jail, also narcotrafic is not mentioned at all in the plebiscite, so illegal acts will continue. And victims?, it is incredible that members of FARC are going to have more beneficts that the victims of violence, they will not have any repair from the government and any help at all. So government lied to us. Vote for NO
Having an agreement that is approved by a whole country is not that easy, your argument shows how does a person that doesn't know how to forgive or forget acts, but anyways, I would like you to think that during all the conflict, (52 years approximately) this negotiations are the nearest point that this process has had to peace and letting this opportunity pass would get us get back in all the progress we have reach. Voting NO will extend the number of victims caused by this conflict, but rember that the victims are not only caused by murder but from the backwardness that our country will get in front of the international comunity, so, voting NO is barking up the wrong tree.
According of what you are saying, it is evidenced that your knowledge about this topic is very poor. Imagine you are a victim of violence, would you agree that  aggressors will have more beneficts than you? What if you lose your mom or dad because violence? What if you are  displace from your home without anything to survive? But since that is not your case, it not matter to you. Voting NO will prevent giving Colombia to criminals which are going to manage it like they want. So is your decision
Poor, is the way in which you are thinking because in the peace process the government is giving enough benefits to victims, from money, up to having full knowledge of what happened during the conflict (in the case of the familiars of the victims), it is clear that there are only two ways of solving this situation, one is negotiating and the other one is an extender war (I think that 52 years of it is enough), that involves a dangerous collateral damage, what means that no only the soldiers would be affected but the population in general. What I understood from your reply is that you want to go back in time when murders, hijacks and narcotraffic were the way in which this country worked. Furthermore, more than a half of the population is voting in favor, is up to you.

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